and then president clinton said we're going to send our men and women into kosovo. he's one of only two republicans to do that. the man wears his heart on his sleeve for his country. they try to dishonor him. but he, you know, listen, he's been through a lot worse in his life than given a hard time. >> john, the thing that amazed me about the exchanges today is they were attacking hagel as if there were weapons of mass destruction there and he was wrong about his conclusions on the war. i could see if they said he was wrong and he was proven to be wrong. he was proven to be right. how do you attack someone that got it right and you got it wrong? >> well, when you're in the hearing, the way i was today, they have this personal issue with chuck hagel. the truth is that chuck hagel was a republican. that's why our members love chuck hagel. it's why 6,000 of them sent 13,000 e-mails to the senate yesterday. he and john mccain had a very close relationship. in 2008, you know, obviously, chuck hagel had taken stances. senator hagel did not support during his presidency. g